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- Subject: The Value of Philosophy
- From: zinov@xxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Fri, 05 Jun 2026 05:28:22 +0000
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Philosophy is traditionally divided into metaphysics, epistemology, and ethics. Philosophy generally uses intuition and rational argumentation instead of empirical methods or dogma to examine these subjects. To object to the value of philosophy, one must either object to the value of the subject-matter or the methods. One might think that some philosophy is of intrinsic value. If any sort of intellectual activities have intrinsic value, it seems plausible that examination of questions, for example, about the fundamental nature of reality are some of the activities that are valuable. But even if one rejects this, a lot of philosophy deals with questions of practical importance. Certainly some questions about ethics and epistemology are important. These fields involve practical questions, such as how one ought to act, or how we can gain knowledge. Even metaphysical questions can have practical implications. Questions about consciousness, for example, can have practical implications, since whether a being is conscious might have implications and how we ought to treat such a being; certain views of consciousness might rule out certain beings as having consciousness. Some metaphysical questions are relevant to philosophy of religion, which has practical significance. Even the problem of universals, which might seem of purely theoretical interest, can have implications for the nature of morality and our ability to have certain kinds of knowledge. Even if one accepts that philosophy deals with questions of importance, one might think that its methods are flawed. There is disagreement among philosophers about what sort of methods should be used, but philosophy generally uses the methods of intuition and rational argumentation (introspection is also used, and empirical claims are often relied on in part). Instead, perhaps one might think that we should only rely on scientific methods or sense perception. But it is hard to see how we can then come to conclusions about the sort of questions philosophy deals with. The sort of facts philosophy deals with are not usually constituted by anything physical, and so we cannot perceive them through the senses like we could facts, for example, about particular animals or plants (philosophical questions might be about the physical world in some way, but not in the sense of involving physical particulars). We cannot see or hear or otherwise perceive by the senses what sort of actions are right or wrong, for example. We cannot perceive by the senses facts about what justifies beliefs or gives us knowledge either. There is no way to determine by sense perception whether, for example, idealism is correct. And in addition to not being the sort of facts that can be perceived through the senses, many philosophical questions make no empirical predictions that would allow us to use inference to the best explanation, so we cannot use this method either. Some people might rely on religion or other traditions for their ethical beliefs (and perhaps also metaphysical or epistemological beliefs). But besides the fact that this is not a reliable way to gain knowledge since the tradition might be mistaken (and some must be; they cannot all be correct), even if it was granted that some particular religion was correct, we still must interpret the claims of the religion/tradition. For example, Jesus teaches that one must 'turn the other cheek'. Some interpret this as a prohibition on any sort of violence, even in self-defence. Others think that this is ridiculous, and it does not include self-defence. It seems that one must rely on non-dogmatic reasoning to determine how to interpret certain teachings. To be fair, this might be less of a concern for hierarchical religions such as Roman Catholicism, since living people can adjudicate such disputes, but then one is relying on flawed humans who would themselves need to rely on philosophy, unless they are considered to be prophets whose every word is dictated by God. But even if one accepts that philosophical questions are in principle worthwhile, and empirical methods and tradition are insufficient for examining them, one might question whether there is any good way of investigating them at all. Of course, if one rejects the possibility of philosophy at all, then this might also rule out religious knowledge due to the sort of concerns raised above. Even in the case of science, one might reject certain alleged evidence based on methodological concerns (one might reject some things as _pseudoscience_), and questions of methodology cannot be settled by science itself. Of course, we are now doing philosophy, so if philosophical knowledge is impossible, this whole discussion is pointless. One cannot claim to know that philosophical knowledge is impossible, since this would itself be a case of philosophical knowledge. However, one might think that even if philosophy is possible and valuable in principle, all previous philosophical work that has been done has been worthless, and so there is no point in studying existing philosophy. At the very least, however, it seems that philosophy has been able to have successes in helping people avoid making mistakes by making people more clear in their thinking. For example, philosophers, going back to Plato (see _Protagoras_) have distinguished between intrinsic value and extrinsic value. Some things are valuable in themselves, others are valuable as a means to an end. If one fails to make this distinction, people can make errors. For example, money might be good to have as a means to an end, but not in itself. One would be wasting one's life if one merely sought out more money but did not use it for anything beneficial. This is clearly an important distinction to make. Sometimes non-philosophers might argue for a position in a fallacious way that a philosopher would be unlikely to do. While there is plenty of disagreement about what sort of arguments are good -- and even disagreements about things like whether an argument is question-begging -- in some cases, an argument clearly fails to even be a valid deduction and would be rejected by any competent philosopher. A more recent advancement along these lines is possible world semantics, which has helped philosophers think more clearly about possibility, necessity, and impossibility. It is clearly good to have the skills of being able to make appropriate distinctions and to argue logically, or at least be able to recognise arguments as failing to establish their conclusions. Philosophy has also had more substantial successes. Philosophers have discussed things like rule of law and natural law going back to Plato and Aristotle. The importance of rule of law is widely accepted, and the concept of natural law and the related concept of natural rights has had a significant and positive impact on society. Philosophers have argued for the importance of freedom of speech and other legal rights. _On Liberty_ is a good work of political philosophy. A more recent advancement in political philosophy is that of philosophical anarchism. Past philosophers have generally accepted that there is political authority -- that states (at least some) have legitimate authority that allows them to make, perhaps within some limits, arbitrary rules that no one else has the authority to enforce, and that people have an obligation to obey the state. But many philosophers now reject this. See _The Problem of Political Authority_ by Michael Huemer, which discusses this issue (it also defends political anarchism, which is different from philosophical anarchism, and much more controversial). There are also significant arguments in applied ethics, such as Peter Singer's argument from marginal cases, which argues by analogy to cases of humans such as infants and the severely mentally retarded that we have similar obligations to non-human animals. Now, even if philosophy, both in principle and in terms of the actual practice of philosophy, is worthwhile, there is a question about how to go about studying it. Some would recommend a more historical approach than others. While I tend to think that there is significant value in reading historical works, there can be disadvantages, and I am not that confident in the best approach. Sometimes older philosophers make serious mistakes that newer philosophers would not make. It might be a good idea to start with some newer material (whether books or lectures or podcasts) aimed at people unfamiliar with philosophy to introduce someone to philosophy, as this can provide a better overview and avoid some mistakes that might be rather obvious in hindsight. If one looks only at historical works and without any sort of guide, one will not have an overview of all of the different positions, and will need to read through some parts that might be rather unimportant (sometimes there are some parts of a work that might still be of significance, while other parts might be completely outdated due to serious errors). One should not judge philosophy based solely on older works, just as one would not judge science based solely on older works. In the case of science, there is need for empirical observation (and in some cases newer equipment has made such observations easier), so philosophy does have an advantage over science in terms of the ability of ancient people to engage in it, and it is also true that old philosophy is often taken more seriously by contemporary philosophers than old science would be by contemporary scientists; but people working off the work of other people still have a significant advantage in the ability to competently engage in philosophy, and contemporary philosophers are likely to agree that sometimes historical philosophers made mistakes that newer ones probably would not make.