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- Subject: Re: Adam Smith vs Alexander Hamilton on Manufacturing
- From: jrmu@xxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2026 14:03:57 -0700
- To: zinov@xxxxxxxxxx
- Cc: ircnow-offtopic@xxxxxxxxxx
> Imagine that you have $100 that you want to invest. There are two options, one > manufacturing, one agriculture, that will both give you $30 in profit. Suppose > that the former requires $5 in rent, while the latter requires $20 in rent. > The total revenue for the former (manufacturing) must be $135, and the latter, > $150 -- $100 to make up for the initial investment, plus $30 in profit each, > plus $5 in rent for the former, and $20 in rent for the latter. > > So, for the two investments to be equally profitable despite paying more rent > in the one case, it must be that the one case is more productive of value. > The assumption of equal profits to you is based on the fact that you would > presumably not want to invest in a less profitable industry. Agriculture is > more land-intensive, both in terms of time spent using the land, and area, and > so that is why rent is more. > > If you consider the land to be capital, note that capital will be left unused > if you choose to invest in manufacturing rather than agriculture. This of > course assumes that there is unused land available. > There's no reason to assume that profits are equal in both. Manufacturing may generate more profits than agriculture. E.g., $500 profit for manufacturing, $200 for agriculture. > Tariffs cannot without limit increase the profitability. If you enact an > 1-million percent tariff on the t-shirt, no one is going to buy a t-shirt for > $100,000, they will just abstain from buying it altogether. A domestic > competitor can initially charge more for the t-shirt than they could in > absence of a tariff, but there is still a limit to how much they can charge. > Anyway, immediately enacting extreme tariffs or outright prohibitions would > lead to severe shortages -- people will need to go without that commodity; so > this is not a feasible economic policy. But less extreme tariffs would provide > less incentive to invest in the industry. (A tariff that gradually increases > to a prohibition will not provide the same incentive as an immediate > prohibition, since this allows time for domestic competitors to enter the > market.) Demand for clothing is inelastic because people can't survive without clothing. > You say that Farmland produces enough of its own oil supplies, but this seems > unlikely if they were buying significant amounts of oil from Desert Kingdom. > This could be possible if, for example, Farmland exported all of its oil and > imported Desert Kingdom's oil (if the reason it did this was due to some sort > of oil processing, then this would not be relevant; it needs to be usable > oil); but unless Farmland set up this situation with the intention of making > Desert Kingdom dependent on Farmland, then presumably it would not produce > enough domestic oil. This also assumes that Desert Kingdom is highly reliant > on a single country and cannot get enough of its food from elsewhere. See United States of America (Republic of Farmland) and Saudi Arabia (Desert Kingdom). > There is no need to rely on the capital of a single man. The capitalists can > pool together their capital if there is an employment of it that is more > profitable. In practice, they don't. All massive infrastructure projects were funded by government. -- Aaron Lin jrmu@xxxxxxxxxx IRCNow (https://ircnow.org)